More than half of the Hispanic voters in the United States approve of President Donald J. Trump. Surprised? Don’t be, add this to the “as not reported by the deep state media complex” pile.
As reported by the Washington Examiner, quoting the stats from a by poll taken McLaughlin & Associates for Newsmax, 47 percent of Hispanics have a positive view President Trump while fifty percent (50%) approve of Trump’s job which includes his handling of the border. One heck of a secret, wouldn’t you say but the facts speak for themselves.
As President Trump doubles down on his pledge to build a southern border wall, Hispanics are showing broad support for him, according to a new survey.
Some 50 percent of Hispanics approve of the president’s job, according to the latest McLaughlin & Associates poll of likely general election voters.
What’s more, the Republican Party has regained its edge over Democrats in the generic congressional ballot.
Pollsters John and Jim McLaughlin suggested that with the end of the Russia collusion probe aiding the president and Republicans, they are poised to come back in the poll and win re-election in 2020[…]
Speaking of which, in spite of efforts by the media, the likes of VH1, BET and TMZ’s brainwashing of stupid American voters, Nancy Pelosi’s favorability rating is in the hole. Voters are not buying what Communists are selling.
— In contrast, Speaker Nancy Pelosi is disliked: 33 percent favorable, 54 percent unfavorable. Two thirds of independent voters, 63 percent, disapprove of the job Speaker Pelosi is doing and so do a quarter, 25 percent, of all Democrats.
Below is President Trump’s rally earlier this year in Florida before a majority Hispanic audience of Venezuelans and Cubans, many of whom legally entered the United States after fleeing their countries under Communist regimes.
I have always admired the Bush family and their collective service to our nation. George H.W Bush in particular because of his heroic service during WW II and his genuine zest for life, exhibited up until the last few years with his age defying acts to celebrate his birthdays.
All of that however is in danger of slipping away with the childlike behavior exhibited this week when they publically stated their intent of not endorsing Trump ,and or not voting for him. Perhaps Jeb , a recent combatant in what was at times an unpleasant primary campaign might still be licking his wounds, but for the family including 2 former Presidents to behave this way is unacceptable.
“ Read my lips”, the now infamous quote of H.W’s during his 1988 campaign , and in 2004 W’s promoting and passage of Medicare Part D ( solely to secure a 2nd term himself ) hardly endear these two as stalwart conservatives in the minds of those who were encouraged in 2008 and 2012 to set aside any differences in the interest of party unity. This conduct only solidifies many conservatives view that the Bush family embodiment of establishment politics is so ingrained as to preclude them from now accepting the will of the voters in their choice of Trump as a standard bearer for the Republican Party.
If indeed this fracture isn’t healed and Hillary Clinton is sworn in next January those of us who have held our noses in the past and supported candidates that were too establishment for our tastes will not soon forget the Bush families distasteful conduct . If the republican party is to go to war with itself, then so be it. Electing the Bush candidates hardly served conservative values, and voters have clearly had enough of the family monarchy, to include both the Bush and Clinton family.
I have known for some time that Republican Party of Virginia Chairman John Whitbeck wasn’t going to work out. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt and ended up falling for his story about the removal of former State Delegate Mark Berg from the party. I initially backed Whitbeck based on his story of what happened, only to read overwhelming evidence that Whitbeck’s account was malarkey.
And then there was the loyalty pledge that the Republican Party tossed out for anyone who would vote in the primary to sign, or you could not vote. Ostensibly this “pledge” was designed to prevent Democrats from voting in the Republican Primary – we don’t register by party in the Commonwealth. The problem with that logic is that if Democrats cross party in a ploy to elect the weakest candidate so the Democrat will win, why would anyone believe the pledge will stop them? These people are Democrats and plan to support the Democrat. They only want to throw a monkey wrench into the GOP process. So they walk in and ask for a GOP ballot in an act of deception. Would a pledge stop them? Hardly.
This pledge only comes up when a Libertarian like Ron Paul runs. Or this year, Donald Trump.
The GOP has done everything they possibly can to rig the playing field to the advantage of the Republican establishment. Eric Cantor and his Young Guns were behind the slating that caused the party to implode and lose big time a couple of years back. And they have left such a bad taste in the mouths of people who normally vote Republican that most are hard pressed to vote Republican. But there is no choice. The Democrats are worse. Many hold their noses and vote Republican, but a loyalty oath is a bridge too far. And just one more obstacle to toss in the way of the voters actually having a voice in the process.
And now we find out that the loyalty oath is a sham anyway. The voters don’t pick the candidates, the Party does. It is all rigged. So your vote doesn’t matter anyway.
Yet John Whitbeck happily planned to force Virginians to sign such an oath. Right up until Vince Haley filed papers to run against Whitbeck for State Party Chairman. Then he dropped the idea like a hot potato behind closed doors. And that being the biggest club in Haley’s campaign arsenal, and the single most important issue, with that off the table, the reasons to run were diminished.
But leave it to Whitbeck. The guy is supposed to be the Chairman, but has injected himself into several races even going so far as to pay the filing fees for his chosen people in the Henrico County Republican Committee Chairman race. The Chairman stacked the deck in a County he doesn’t even live in. And this just happens to be the County fired Congressman Eric Cantor lived in.
Whitbeck thought he was home free when Haley suspended his campaign for Whitbeck’s job. Let the shenanigans begin!
But what Whitbeck has done is so egregious that Haley was urged by a lot of people to reenter the race.
And Vince Haley agreed. This is not how the Chairman of the Republican Party behaves. It is time to fire John Whitbeck! I am all in for Vince Haley!
From the Vince Haley Campaign:
You are the lifeblood of the Republican Party — the keepers of the Republican Creed. You do the hard work needed to win: staff the polls; knock the doors; make the phone calls; and have your voice heard at conventions.
It is in the spirit of service to you that I have made the decision to re-enter the race for RPV State Party Chairman. I humbly ask for your support.
When I suspended my campaign in February, I had hoped that the Republican Party of Virginia would take steps to become an organization that was laser focused on victory in November and the fair management of party races across the Commonwealth. This hope was misplaced, which is why I am reactivating my campaign for Chairman.
We have an umpire problem at RPV.
How are we supposed to trust that the RPV organization will play a fair role in party races anywhere in the Commonwealth when the RPV Chairman and his Executive Director have inserted themselves in local party elections in an attempt to defeat their disfavored candidates?
This is not the fair calling of balls and strikes by a neutral umpire.
This is picking a side. It’s an abuse of trust.
Who would want to get involved in a local party race if all the time and hard work of grassroots candidates can simply be neutralized by shadow money allocated by the RPV Chairman and his Executive Director?
If this is business as usual for those running a state party organization that we the party faithful are supposed to accept – then count me out. I oppose such a practice, I pledge to never engage in such behavior if elected Chairman, and I hope to rally a majority of those attending the state party convention to join me in doing so.
How can RPV be laser focused on victory in November if it is so busy trying to enforce loyalty to RPV leadership?
The RPV should not try to control the direction of local parties. RPV should instead let the will of the grassroots play out in their local jurisdictions.
In order to be prepared for victory in November, we must have a Party that is competent and totally dedicated to fighting for the Republican Creed. We are in desperate need for an autonomous state party — an honest broker above any suspicion that it is tipping the scales for or against certain candidates in party races.
You deserve not just a better RPV, but an excellent Republican Party of Virginia. You deserve leadership that represents you with honor and never forgets that leadership in our Party is a sacred trust. The principles of the Republican Creed are not secondary considerations. I’ve devoted the last 14 years of my life to that cause. I am proudly 100% pro-life, pro traditional marriage, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-Veteran, and anti-tax-and-spend. As RPV Chairman, I will not compromise our Republican Creed nor kowtow to those who would undermine it. I will not take marching orders from anyone else but you. I will fight for our common values and I’ll make sure national Republicans hear your voice loud and clear this summer in Cleveland.
The time to restore our identity and trust in our Republican Party is right here and now. Let’s elect a Chairman who is unafraid and unapologetic to stand with those who honor the very principles for which our Founding Fathers sacrificed their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor.
You deserve a Chairman that keeps his promises. You deserve a Chairman who will raise money for the Party to use for victory. You deserve a Chairman who works to make sure the Party processes are fair, professionally, and efficiently run. You deserve a Chairman who uses his bully pulpit to promote the values espoused by the Republican Creed and you deserve an RPV staff that will be effective, efficient, experienced, and totally devoted towards assisting the grassroots and servicing their needs.
With a Republican Party that guards its principles and keeps its promises, we can save our Republic, bring greater prosperity and freedom to the Citizens of the Commonwealth, and bring the Republican Party of Virginia into a new era of principle, efficiency, service, and victory.
I earnestly look forward to your support, our conversation, and engaging with so many new friends over the next few weeks. Thank you for this tremendous opportunity to keep the promise. Let’s build a party worthy of our creed and of you, the grassroots.
I look forward to seeing you in Harrisonburg at the James Madison University Convocation Center on April 29th and 30th and I humbly ask for your vote.
The Council has spoken, the votes have been cast, and the results are in for this week’s Watcher’s Council match up.
““Better to die fighting for freedom then be a prisoner all the days of your life.” “ – Bob Marley
“What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? “ – Thomas Jefferson
“We are sorry for the inconvenience, but this is a revolution.” – Subcommandante Marcos
This week’s winning essay,The Razor’sThe Peasants Are Revolting Is his fascinating analysis of exactly what going on politically in America right now and what it means. Here’s a slice:
Watching events unfold this election year is proof that the Chinese saying “May you live in interesting times,” is a curse. 2016 is an extremely interesting time in American politics, and with each passing day I’m convinced that once this election is over things will never be the same thanks to Donald Trump.
Trump’s success has spawned a cottage industry of political navel-gazers trying to figure out how this brash and egotistical real estate developer commandeered the grassroots of a major political party. Dan Balz of the Washington Post writes, “At the core of Donald Trump’s political success this year are the grievances of a sizable and now vocal block of disaffected voters, many of them white and working-class, and a Republican Party that has sought and benefited from their support while giving them almost nothing tangible in return.”
Funny how that happened. Starting in 1994 the GOP faithful elected a Congress who was supposed to implement a “Contract with America” to lower spending. Instead what they elected was a bunch of neophytes who immediately started acting like Democrats feeding from the trough, throwing a bone to the rank and file by attempting to impeach a sitting president over his infidelity to a woman they all hated anyway. In 2000 the GOP grassroots do what they are told and elect an establishment candidate – who then goes on to start a war that his father left unfinished, blowing a hole in the budget almost as wide as any crater in Iraq.
But they do as they are told and re-elect him in 2004. And they do as they are told again in 2008 before revolting in 2010 by electing a bunch of Tea Party firebrands who… sidle up to the trough just like their Contract with America forebears did 16 years previously. The party elites are professionals at co-opting rebels, and the GOP’s did absolutely nothing to improve the lot of the grassroots. Instead their economic prospects continued dwindling as the GOP majority cut deal after deal with the Democrat minority and their liberal president.
The GOP grassroots voted for GOP candidates and found the men and women they elected to Congress were Democrats in all but name. It’s as if the Democrats had controlled Congress as well as the presidency since 2008. The Democrats push to flood labor markets with illegal aliens to boost union membership and their own party’s roster, and the GOP – beholden to the same corporations bankrolling the Democrats needing cheap labor – agree. Meanwhile American citizens watch these illegals take their jobs and drive down the wages of those they don’t.
Now some of the GOP elite are claiming they are going to vote for Hillary instead of Trump, something they had warned Trump against doing when they hoped he would flare-out last Fall. Why this may seem shocking for them it’s no surprise to the Republican Party faithful; they understand the GOP elite has been Democrats all along. At the very least it undermines their past arguments that any Republican is better in the Oval Office than any Democrat.
The GOP peasants are revolting and they have chosen as their leader the only man willing to voice their concerns. For years they have sought a fighter who would take a punch from the Democrats and hit back twice as hard. They finally found him in of all places, Donald Trump. The New York Times reports, “The problem, for figures like Mr. Forbes and Mr. Romney, is that Mr. Trump’s supporters seem profoundly uninterested at the moment with the image, expectations or traditions of the Republican Party, according to interviews with more than three dozen voters, elected officials and operatives. They are, in many cases, hostile to it. “I want to see Trump go up there and do damage to the Republican Party,” said Jeff Walls, 53, of Flowood, Miss.” Perhaps Mr. Romney would have won the election of 2012 had he hit Obama then as hard as he’s hitting Trump now.
In our non-Council category, the winner was Conrad Black with Conrad Black – Don’t underestimate Donald. He will win submitted by Joshuapundit. Conrad Black, who’s writing used to appear in the NRO is apparently no longer welcome there since they started a jihad against Donald Trump. Here, in Canada’s National Post, he writes about the Donald Trump he knows personally and why he thinks that in the end, Trump will wind up in the Oval Office.
Here are this week’s full results. Only Bookworm Room and th eDaley Gator were unable to vote this week, but neither was subject to the usual 2/3 vote penalty for not voting:
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We have a lot of RINO’s in Virginia. And in the nation as a whole. RINO’s – Republicans in Name Only – are responsible for the leftward lurch of the Republican Party. And one thing I have noticed is that they all believe themselves to be Conservatives and they all believe they are moderate Republicans. I am convinced that they actually do really believe this.
But I think the area where they are fooling themselves is in the way they measure the terms moderate and Conservative.
Their measuring stick is not based on the Constitution, nor is it based on a constant and stationary point on the political spectrum. Rather, it is based on the current position of the Democrats. They self-define Moderate and Conservative as being just a little to the right of the Democrats (and the media). And I think even the RINO’s would quickly admit that the Democrats are and have been racing to the left at such a pace that they are now indistinguishable from Socialists. Or Marxists, take your pick. And a valid argument could be made that they have moved so far to the left that Socialism and Marxism are almost Conservative values as far as the Democrats are concerned. Certainly the Democrats consider their far left Party of today to be the new mainstream, which is constantly in motion leftward.
So the Republicans, many of whom are staunch followers and lovers of Ronald Reagan, have become followers, constantly moving left. Ever chasing the Democrats further and further to the left in an effort to remain moderate, as measured by the Democrat’s political position du jour.
And when the RINO’s stop and take a look at where most of the people in the Republican Party are politically today from the vantage point of their constantly leftward moving position, they see those of us who have stood our ground, or misguidedly followed the RINO’s to the left for a while and corrected our course, as far right wing extremists. They believe we have moved to the right, when it is they who have moved.
It is impossible to know if the RINO’s position on Conservatives is one of deception or delusion. Or perhaps a combination of both.
Politicians in general are masters of deception. For example, Eric Cantor delivered his speeches about smaller, limited government, balanced budgets and Conservative principles with aplomb. He sounded sincere and fooled a lot of people for a long time. But when you examined his record you understand that politicians are quite accomplished in saying one thing and doing another while using sleight of hand show votes to fool the people at home. Cantor would point to dozens of votes to repeal Obamacare, for instance, none of which ever stood a chance of becoming law, while funding the Health Care Leviathan as keeper of the purse. And Paul Ryan has already mastered this art as he points to the legislation to repeal Obamacare and de-fund Planned Parenthood that he sent to Obama’s desk. Which was promptly vetoed. And now Ryan promises a veto override that has exactly zero chance of passing.
More theater. More show voted that mean nothing. But they fool the people at home.
The RINO’s are fooled at least.
Eric Cantor was shown the door last year. We know what he was doing.
Now it would be incorrect of me to write that the Republican Party has become more conservative since Obama came into office in 2009. A lot of us were blindly following the Republican leadership as they chased after the Democrats sprinting to the left. A lot of sleeping Republicans woke up and realized we were following so called leaders who were not leading, but rather were following the Democrats down Socialism Highway.
We put on the brakes and went back to the starting blocks. Back to the old time Conservatism of Ronald Reagan. And yes, we shunned the Progressive “Conservatism” as redefined almost daily by the RINO Contingency of the Republican Party.
But this weekend, I was astonished to read a Facebook post by Virginia’s former two term Lt. Governor Bill Bolling.
Bolling is one of those RINO’s who has been drifting left for years and seems blissfully ignorant of his leftward lunge. Perhaps it was more subtle than a lunge. We can just call it a leftward drift.
Now Bolling has come to despise those of us that are true Conservatives. He is oblivious of the fact that he has been in hot pursuit of the now Socialist Democrats in an effort to remain a moderate mainstream Republican. You see, he believes the equally Socialistic Media that says Republican must be “moderates” in order to win elections. Bolling has reached a point in his political prism that he finds Democrats like Terry McAuliffe more his politically ideological mate than the Conservatives in his own party. He even shunned Conservative Republican Ken Cuccinelli (along with many of his fellow RINO’s) and at the very least put up no resistance to the McAuliffe victory. At worse, he helped the Democrats win.
So does it really come as a surprise to learn the Bolling also despises GOP front-runner Donald Trump and runner up Ted Cruz? It shouldn’t.
Bill posted this on Facebook Sunday:
When I saw that, I headed straight for the comments section to have my say on this delusional post. Ronald Reagan would have demanded Bolling be kicked out of the party.
Bolling and the candidates he has supported have put this country $19 trillion in debt, nearly 1/3 of the nation is not working and the entire country is a racial and political powder keg on the verge of a meltdown.
The “fears” that he is talking about and the “division” in America are due to the policies his RINO buddies have allowed. Or instigated. Amnesty, refugees, illegal aliens, debt and a massive federal government are the RINO legacy. And the candidates that support these atrocities are not responsible candidates, they are irresponsible big government Progressive Republicans who will do nothing to change the spiral of destruction we are in, but will support the status quo.
Bolling is completely incapable of understanding that the appeal of Trump and Cruz by Republicans is a complete and utter rebuke of the “moderate, mainstream” Republicanism that has guided America to the brink of total destruction. Since Reagan left office, Bush the Elder and Bush the Younger were the direct cause of the Clintons and Obama.
Debt, wars, death and destruction has been the path America has been sprinting down. Be a Bush or a Clinton or an Obama. America has lost her soul since Reagan left.
You can blame it on the Democrats all you want, but without the assistance and acquiescence of the Republican Party that Bill Bolling thinks has been responsible this could not have happened. His “responsible” candidate, no doubt another Bush or Rubio, or worse, would indeed be responsible. Responsible for more debt, wars, death and destruction. His “responsible” candidates will not do a single thing to reverse the course we are on.
Yea. That was what I wanted to say. But you know what? I didn’t have to. Dozens of people had already responded and said it all. And much more. And there were a few RINO’s that agreed with Bolling, but they were a tiny minority.
Here are some of the responses. I will leave out the names, but this post is still up on Facebook. See for yourself here.
People are discouraged with politicians.
The people are trying to send a message, they’re tired and want change, real change not just words
How can anyone vote straight party lines when you tells us one thing an do another.People are so fed up with the status quo and the do nothing Washington takes care of themselves an not the voters shame on you.Its not fear that is driving people to Trump its Washington. He has enough money he can’t be bought like so many in Washington.97000 people are no longer in the work force,Welfare is thriving.It pays to be illegal.Veterans aren’t being taken care of,500 day wait to be evaluated .This country is a mess.I’m sick of the politicians double talk .Hopefully term limits will be set on these lifer dead beats
If the Republican Party would listen to the people instead of business as usual and doing nothing but trying their job.
That’s what ALL politicians do Virginia, tell people what they WANT to hear. How many other jobs can you work for 2-6 years and come out a millionaire.
Ted Cruz is the True conservative here. The Republican establishment is afraid of him.
The Republican party needs to get its act together and quit acting like Democrats. People are tired of being lied to.
Cruz isn’t a conservative. Not when he supports govt. overreach instead of the citizens in Oregon.
The Republican party will continue to be a party of losers as long as it tries to be the same thing as Democrats, except for taking stands on social issues that are backward and turn people off. Republicans say one thing, but they govern exactly like Democrats. People know this. And people are angry enough that they’re willing to hang their hopes on a guy like Trump – who might well build the fence, but he’ll be just as statist as the rest.
What they say about Trump they used to say about Reagan in 76
The party can’t get out a message to save it’s life. LIke it or not, Trump’s been the loudest message ever heard.
Bottom line is most Americans are tired of the establishment, myself included…the narrowing margins are ridiculous, John Boehner is a disgrace, Paul Ryan isn’t much better, the RNC is out of touch, and the old guard on both sides care more about their respective political affiliations than the American people. In response to what most Americans fear, their fear is real and continues to be validated….that’s what happened to the party.
It is because Trump and Cruz are saying the things we are all seeing.
I think the GOP is a lost cause due to it’s lack of leadership
America is tired of the PARTY no matter which side you are on! They care about America not the PARTY! If the Congress, Senate and President did the same we wouldn’t be in the state we are in and going down the road we are going! We are all tired of our elected officials just wanting to do what is best for themselves! Trump is a business man and really knows more about dealing foreign Gov.s than any other candidate that I have seen! I agree it is scary but the raod we are on isn’t getting America anywhere but wrecked!
I do not believe anyone in our party loves Mr. Reagan and what be stood for more than me, but remember he was the outsider when be ran, the establishment wanted Bush. I don’t think the problem is with what the party finds conservative, it is what the establishment t wants to call conservative. Like it or not Trump is simply brave enough to say what most of us are thinking and the pc police tell us we cannot. I will also remind you, Trex was sent to Washington as a VP so the political establishment could nuetralize him. He seems to have been OK as President.
Bill, I can answer that question. We’ve been ignored for 4-7 years and we are in search of a leader. It doesn’t appear anyone can bring a stop to the Socialism agenda on the current team…..
The party left Reagan a long time ago.
The Republican party is to blame for Trump. They were given a shot in 2010 and have done nothing. Said they needed the Senate. We gave them the Senate and they have done nothing. They just keep giving in to obama without anything in return and he keeps blaming them for all that’s broken. We want someone that will stand up for our values. Is there risk? Yes but at this point no one is stepping up. Bush has shown us just how weak he is. The people like Cruz and Paul have been demonized by the mainstream GOP. Let’s face it, it is time for change.
And there are many, many more.
You see, Bill, you represent the failures of the last couple of decades. Your Milquetoast brand of “Conservatism” is an ever changing experiment in redefinition. People have blindly followed the GOP for years. Like robots (or Cantor Zombies) marching to the polls, voting straight Republican and expecting things to get better. Expecting Republicans to keep their promises. Can’t you see it? We have supported losers like McCain and Romney. We supported “W” and he managed to make Obama appealing. Nothing will change if we nominated Bush, Rubio, Christie, Kasich or any of the RINO pack. It will be more of the same.
Trump, Cruz, Carson and Fiorina have had such appeal because they are not moderate mainstream Republicans who are responsible for the state we find ourselves in.
We tried it your way. We followed you. In your second administration Republicans were given the three top offices in Virginia. We ended up with the largest tax hike in Virgin9ia history and a governor who is praying the Supreme Court will hear his corruption case and keep him out of jail.
In 2010 we gave Republicans the House and took the gavel from Nancy Pelosi. In 2014 we added the Senate to the Republican column. And what has changed?
Nothing! Not a damn thing.
John Boehner squandered his power and it became his downfall. The Senate has done absolutely nothing. Paul Ryan gave Obama everything he dreamed of and more. Pelosi and Harry Reid marveled at the stupidity of the Republicans cave on the Omnibus bill and wouldn’t have dared to spend money that recklessly. Your “responsible” RINO’s were ridiculed by the likes of Pelosi and Reid for their spending. And it was not even Conservative spending. It was the left’s bucket list.
And Cruz is being rewarded for having the stones to shut down the government over Conservative principles. And what do you do, Bolling? You ridicule him. You promise Dave Brat that you will not forget his “betrayal” in voting against Boehner. Brat actually listened to the voters, something the 7th District was not accustomed to under the Cantor machine.
The people who are supporting Trump and Cruz want a candidate that will address the problems facing America.
We have a president now who is proud of leading from behind. But what Americans find even more disgusting than “leading from behind” is leaders who chase Democrats.
We are fed up. We have watched the RINO Republicans fail to deliver on a single promise over and over again.
This time we have choices. This time we have an opportunity to actually elect a candidate that won’t cave in as soon as he is elected.
You may remember Conservatives who vote against the status quo, but America remembers the lies and broken promises you “moderate” Republicans have inflicted on her.
And God willing the Republican Party will soon turn back to the true Conservatism that is Ronald Reagan’s legacy.
Every week on Monday morning , the Council and our invited guests weigh in at the Watcher’s Forum, short takes on a major issue of the day, the culture, or daily living. This week’s question: Is It Time For A Third Party?
Bookworm Room: It’s time to take over the GOP, but not to divide it so that the Democrats can conquer.
The Glittering Eye :No. Duverger’s Law is the rule-of-thumb in political science that says that two party systems ultimately emerge in plurality rule systems with single member districts while proportional representation systems tend to be multi-party.
In other words the conditions for a third party can’t be favorable without electoral reform.
I think we’re either nearing a Constitutional Convention or an actual rebellion.
The Razor : Only if it replaces the Republican Party.
JoshuaPundit : I see the majority of the American people as being between a rock and a hard place.
On the one hand, the Democrats have truly become what Barack Obama and George Soros wanted to create – an ultra Left, corrupt socialist party utterly opposed to most of the Constitution with suicidal views on national security and illegal migration. And for good measure, a nice side order of fiscal irresponsibility, ultra high taxation, and exacerbated racial unrest.
It is exactly the kind of party a corrupt snake like Mrs. Clinton was born to lead. And the fact that someone with her record and moral character has at least a 50% chance of polluting the Oval Office with her presence is a grim testimony to the state of our politics and our Fourth Estate.
On the other hand, we have the Republican Party, whose leadership long ago ceased to represent anyone except itself, let alone the people whom dutifully voted for it and gave it majorities in congress that were marketed to them as what was needed to stop the dangerous decline of the country. Here, we have a whole infrastructure of politicians and elites who essentially regard the people they supposedly represent as a damned nuisance who should shut up and simply get behind whatever they’ve decided this year’s product with an ‘R’ on it is going to be.
The whole situation resembles nothing so much as a famous Simpson’s cartoon where two space aliens, Kang and Kodos seek to conquer and enslave America by posing as the two presidential candidates:
As far as the GOP goes, it’s gotten so toxic that the Republican establishment is signalling openly that if the peasants are so uppity as to pick Ted Cruz, Donald Trump or anyone else who’s unwilling to go along with their agenda, they’ll try and sandbag them by having a brokered convention to pick one of their own chosen ones. And if that doesn’t work, they’re actually prepared to do whatever they can to throw the election to the Democrats and try and use the old tired formula again in 2020.
So, a third party? Lots of pros and cons.
The way the system is set up, it’s very tough to get on the ballot in all fifty states let alone set up the infrastructure to compete nationally. The obvious historical precedent is that of the Whigs, who imploded over the slavery issue and gave birth to the Republicans. The fledgling Republican Party lost their first election badly,in 1854. They won the next one, in 1860, but it’s not usually remembered that there were five parties competing that year and the GOP squeaked by on a minority vote.
Another con is the obvious one…that splitting the Republican Party almost guarantees that Hillary Clinton will be the next president, with all that entails.
The pros? How about the possibility of no choice? Without an open, vociferous revolt, I don’t see the Republican party being taken away from those whom now hold it. Either Trump or Ted Cruz would have to have such an overwhelming amount of delegates as to make a brokered convention impossible, and there’s no way of forcing people whom despise them and their supporters to work to get a Cruz or a Trump elected. At best, many of them may sit on their hands and do little or nothing and at worse they will simply vote for Mrs. Clinton as more than one of them have suggested.
Is it possible to win the White House without their support? It all depends on how many of them dial out, how fed up the American people are, how successful outright voter fraud is and how the campaign itself goes. These things can hinge on small events. The way I see it, at this point in time Mrs. Clinton has a probable 237 electoral votes going in, including the entire West Coast, Hawaii, New Mexico, Minnesota, Illinois, DC, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, New York and all of New England except perhaps New Hampshire. And that assumes that the Democrats don’t also take Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin,Colorado, Nevada, Florida, Virginia or North Carolina. Pennsylvania and either Michigan, North Carolina or Virginia alone give her the winning number of 270. It isn’t an impossible map in 2016, but it’s no picnic. And there’s a distinct possibility it may be our last real election as a Republic.
I’m not trying to be discouraging here. The map can get better depending on events, the GOP elephant might pull together and rouse itself for one more charge with the first real conservative candidate since Ronaldus Maximus (perhaps with a more ‘moderate’ VP as a sop to the Establishment, which is usually how these things get done). And we maybe able to start rebuilding the country again.
But if the GOP implodes because the establishment tries to sabotage a conservative candidate, or because they succeed one way or the other in giving us a Kang or Kodos choice, a third party isn’t a choice. It’s a necessity.
Greg Aydt, Rhymes With Right : I’m starting to think yes — and I say this as someone who has spent the last 35 years as an active Republican and the last 15 as an elected member of my county Republican Executive Committee.
Let’s look at things. The Democrats have moved so far left that they have become Euro-socialists even as the Euro-socialists move to the right because their experiment has been failing for some time. The Republicans are on the verge of being taken over by latter-day Know-Nothings seeking to close the borders, impose religious tests for office and (in some cases) proposing secession — an existential threat that rivals Watwrgatw. So tell me — where is there room for those of us who occupy the center-right that was exemplified by Ronald Reagan? I’m beginning to wonder if there needs to be some new vehicle for the sane center of the United States.
The problem, of course, consists in two realities.
First, the two parties have rigged our nation’s election laws to keep third parties marginalized by limiting ballot access. The major parties have automatic access to the ballot, while everyone else faces onerous signature or financial requirements to do so.
Second, in our system it is virtually impossible for more than two parties to thrive in the long term. In the last 25 presidential elections there have been four major efforts at running a major third party candidate for president. Each of those parties has not only failed to win, but has failed to even field a significant candidate four years later as one or the other major parties shifted enough to absorb most of the insurgent party’s voters.
What I guess I’m saying is that there is little chance of such a party making a go of it in the long term. The best that could be hoped for is that one or the other party might be dragged away from the ideological precipice on which they stand.
GrEaT sAtAn”S gIrLfRiEnD : No and no. The third part meme sounds great perhaps from a purely partisan view (naturally), yet it’s a path to defeat and the inauguration of HRC as the 45th President of the United States.
Laura Rambeau Lee,Right Reason : Unfortunately the time has run out for a third party to be an effective option for the 2016 presidential race. What we have today are essentially two progressive big government parties. The Democrat Party exists to advance the socialist/communist agenda. The Republican Party is not much better and has lost all direction by trying to bring in non-conservatives they believe they need to win a majority. The party may be the friend of big business but they refuse to take a stand for the social issues and traditions of American culture which have made this country great.
After delivering a Republican House majority in 2010 and Senate majority in 2014 one would think the Republicans would acknowledge the hard work and commitment of the conservatives within the party and try to incorporate more of their values and address their issues. Instead we have been taken for granted and used to advance the power of the GOP. In 2012 they ran Mitt Romney against the wishes of most conservatives and failed to defeat President Obama, which should have been easy considering the actions and scandals piling up during his first term. They continue to treat conservatives as a small inconsequential group within the party even though we have been their staunchest supporters.
Since I do not believe a third party is a viable option at this time, we conservatives have to demand the Republican Party accept the candidate we choose; a candidate who can communicate with all Americans and show them where we as a country have gone off course and how he or she will effect true change by restoring American pride, traditions, and culture. Obama promised hope and change but people are realizing the change he promised was not what they envisioned, and many have lost hope. We need someone who can help restore to Americans their spirit of ingenuity, self-determination, freedom, and independence. We need someone who will return government to its rightful place in America; a government that serves the people.
Well, there you have it.
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I doubt there is a more vocal Republican when it comes to the Republican Party of Virginia’s war on Conservatives than yours truly. And there are not many elected officials in the Commonwealth more Conservative than Delegate Mark Berg. And I really hate the fact that Mark lost in a very close primary, but that is what happened.
Unfortunately, an active write in campaign was waged in favor of Mark Berg. And while I do not believe Berg was spearheading this effort to write him in on the November 3 ballot, there was a write in campaign nevertheless.
John Whitbeck wrote an Op-Ed at the Bull Elephant (Click here to read his piece) detailing the considerable effort he put forth to avoid this situation.
For the sake of clarity, I should point out that Del. Berg was never removed from the Party, nor did he resign from the Party. There really is no such process because we do not register by Party in Virginia and I certainly do not have that power as Chairman. However, our Party does elect individuals to serve on the Official Committees that govern the Republican Party of Virginia (“RPV”). Up until October 31, 2015, Del. Berg was elected to serve on three Official Committees: the SCC, the 10th District and the FCRC. While individuals who serve on an Official Committees can be removed from their elected office after due process this did not happen to Del. Berg. Rather, he was deemed to have resigned from all Official Committees pursuant to Article 7, Section C, Paragraph 2 of the RPV Party Plan which states:
A member of an Official Committee is held to a higher standard of support for nominees of the Republican Party than an individual who merely participates in a mass meeting, party canvass, convention, or primary. Therefore, a member of an Official Committee is deemed to have resigned his Committee position if he (a) makes a reportable contribution to and/or (b) allows his name to be publicly used by and/or (c) makes a written or other public statement in support of a candidate in opposition to a Republican nominee in a Virginia General or Special Election. Such member may be re-instated by a majority vote of the other members of the Committee. (Emphasis added).
And the piece goes on to list the numerous efforts Whitbeck attempted on Berg’s behalf including a letter in the Bull Elephant post. All Mark was required to do was disavow the write in efforts.
He did so, but after the election.
Whitbeck points out that Berg, at this point, has two options. He can appeal the ruling, but it is my belief that the ruling is correct and I would support upholding the ruling. The second option is to be voted back in by a majority, which is the route I believe should be taken as soon as possible. And I would hope the vote would be unanimous.
Whitbeck correctly points out that the rules state that A member of an Official Committee is held to a higher standard of support for nominees of the Republican Party than an individual who merely participates in a mass meeting, party canvass, convention or primary. Such member need not actively support the nominee, but it is not permitted to knowingly allow your name to be used in opposition to the nominee. And after Whitbeck notified Berg, a simple statement could have prevented this unpleasantness.
So let’s vote Mark Berg back in and put this all behind us. We need Mark. There is a lot of work to do. And let’s give the Republican winner a chance. Chris Collins was elected with 86% of the vote.
Thank you John Whitbeck. I know it was hard but the right call was made here. Let’s all just get past it.
As I begin to write this, I am unsure whether I will quote the soon to be former Speaker of the House. The left-leaning Republican media in Virginia, New York, and Washington DC are already posting story after story about how unfairly their Dear Leader was treated by the Republican voters. See, we’re too stupid. That’s the problem with Republican politics. Republican voters are just too damn stupid. Yes, you too. You, reading this, you are stupid. See, when Mitch McConnell ran for the Senate on an anti-Obamacare Platform, you were stupid enough to believe him. When John Boehner ran for reelection in Ohio on repealing ObamaCare, you were just too stupid, you believed him.
Of course, they are blaming Ted Cruz and Rand Paul for your stupidity. See, you wanted them to defund ObamaCare and Planned Parenthood and Executive Amnesty. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul said that they’d fight for you, to push legislation as far as it would go, as far as it was possible. That forced the leadership in the Republican Party to pretend to agree with Senator Cruz and Senator Paul. In fact, Mitch McConnell ran for reelection on the Rand Paul Platform and John Boehner ran for reelection as Ted Cruz. But its you stupid, stubborn Cruz and Paul supporters who are ruining the Republican Party.
Yes, the Republicans are being lied to. They are being lied to by Boehner and McConnell, McCain and Graham, the Washington Times and Bearing Drift.
John Boehner announces retirement and then accuses those who oppose him of lying. Why? Because we want votes against ObamaCare – Boehner and McConnell both promised to repeal it. These aren’t serious men. They think of each of you, the republican voter, as an ignorant, worthless, pawn – a rube, an easily manipulated chess piece, a FOXNEWS automaton.
John Boehner, has announced, that the truth is that Republicans, in power or out of power, have no power and can accomplish nothing. If John Boehner is right, than anyone voting for a Republican for anything is a complete and utter moron. They never intended to represent you. They laughed their way through reelection. They pretended to be conservatives, they pretended to care. They don’t. Your only role to the GOP Leadership, is the role of a useful idiot. If you refuse to play that role, my friends, they will unleash the most vicious assaults against you.
As Republicans you have two choices: blind obedience and submission, or revolution against the Republican Leadership. There is no middle ground.
John Boehner and Mitch McConnell, and all the Bush people, Kascich people, and Christie people, are about to fund Obama’s agenda through the end of his term, because they agree with Obama’s agenda. They want Obama’s agenda. They never had any intention of representing you and they never will. These are facts. This is the way things are. If you want to change the Republican Party, you need to change, to exchange, all those who control it. Otherwise, you’ll remain the useful idiots of the rich and powerful – those who care nothing for country, for the economy, or for the future freedom and prosperity of America as a nation. Is it any wonder, that those who seem least contented with government are those who simply are not in the employ of the government or its politicians? If we don’t begin a drastic reduction immediately, we’ll be overrun. Anyone able to make a buck off the Bush Family or the Romney Clan will continue to control the party that used to represent you. Unless you have a hundred million dollars to invest in their power, you will have neither representation nor favored status amongst the elite.
Boehner retiring should not be seen as a victory, but merely the first pawn taken off the chessboard. It’s a step 2. Cantor was step 1. We need a checkmate. We must not rest until we have an entirely clean GOP leadership.
Brian Schoeneman has published a brilliantly written piece over at Bearing Drift entitled, The Iran Deal is not a Treaty, wherein he endeavors to demonstrate that this whole Iran Nuclear Deal really is what the President says it is, an Executive Agreement. He begins his piece by offering up the arguments which he seeks to dispel, not to lay waste to or even criticize these perspectives, but merely to state them, honestly, in the unedited words of those who expressed them. I mention this, I suppose, out of respect for the proper form of argument, which I rarely see anymore these days, but which was executed perfectly in Brian’s piece.
Mr. Schoeneman goes on to detail the legal history and relevant rulings of the courts with regard to Executive Agreements; which is to say, that he explains to us exactly how bizarre and corrupt our government has become, even though, I suspect, that was not his intention. I have a few disagreements with a couple of his premises, but those counter arguments have been made at Bearing Drift by others, and if debating this article interests you, it ought to be debated where it was written.
I suggest that you read the article, because I will not quote it here. Instead, I intend to address a larger problem with the Republican Party which the Schoeneman piece perfectly depicts. This is not a problem that originates with the Republican Party, nor is the GOP Leadership the only group of people guilty of it. The problem is something I refer to as Practicalism. It’s a term I coined in my notes while studying philosophy at Virginia Tech. A term I used to describe something for which I didn’t have a word.
Practicalism is not a philosophy, but rather a way of thinking. I say that it is not a philosophy, because it has no adherence to any set of principles, nor does it necessarily consider principles. Instead, Practicalism is a word I use for people who think in terms, primarily, if not exclusively, of what is “practical”. Practicalism accepts whatever is commonly accepted. It adopts the language, ideas, and “reality” most prevalent within a system, a culture, or within the larger set of ideas, being that which is common. Anything which contradicts that which is commonly accepted is impractical and therefore unreasonable, or so the Practicalists believe.
Another excellent example of what I refer to as Practicalism is the 14th Amendments’ infiltration into every aspect of American Life. The 14th Amendment, written to protect the rights of slaves, freed slaves, and the children of slaves, states in Section 1:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Now, the words, “equal protection of the laws” has come to refer to everyone and in almost every circumstance or situation. The Amendment was clearly written to protect African-American slaves and their decedents from mistreatment under the Democrat Rule in The South, or wherever Democrats had amassed power. It was not intended to address the rights of women, homosexuals, diplomats, or illegal aliens. Yet, through the perversions of our Courts, the 14th Amendment has grown in scope and this new scope is now commonly accepted as the only correct interpretation of the amendment. Anything contradicting this popular and modern view of the 14th Amendment is considered to be wrong, by virtue of its’ being impractical.
Republicans don’t want to deport illegal aliens, because it is impractical. It is hard, expensive, and it will hurt business (especially business as usual). Republicans don’t really want to overturn Roe v. Wade, because women have accepted that access to infanticide is a right, and it would be impractical to take away a right to which women have become accustomed. Republicans don’t want to talk about gay marriage, because the Supreme Court ruled on DOMA and “everyone” accepts that gays have the right to marry, and it would be impractical to oppose it. Republicans don’t want to stop Iran from getting the bomb, because most of the world despises Israel anyway and figures that world peace would be greatly increased if there were no Jews in the world; for, as we know, Jews are offensive to Muslims and offending Muslims causes war and war is impractical. Republicans aren’t going to cut back on spending or reduce the debt, because Maryland and Virginia now have economies entirely predicated upon federal government spending, and millions of people would be put out of work, and Maryland’s and Virginia’s economies would be upended, and it would just be all together impractical.
If “everyone” accepts that the President has the right to call a Treaty an Executive Agreement, then it is impractical to oppose it. That is the nature behind the thought of Brian Schoeneman’s piece. Do you really think Brian, or anyone over at Bearing Drift actually likes the Iran Deal? They don’t! Even the idea that because the super wealthy Wall Street and K Street crowds stand to make a fortune off the Iran Treaty, doesn’t mean that men like Brian Schoeneman or Shaun Kenney stand to make a penny off it. In fact, I suspect that neither of them like the Iran Deal. I suspect that most of their principles would lead them to be in utter opposition to the Iran Deal. But principles don’t matter when you are a Practicalist, when you practice Practicalism.
I listened to about 3 minutes of Rush Limbaugh on my way home from work. I listened to Mark Levin’s Friday evening show on my way to work. Even Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh don’t understand the mindset they are up against. Everyone is looking for a sinister reason, a maleficent motive, an evil at the heart of the Republican Party which has caused it to disappoint so many of us who call ourselves Republicans, or who place our hope in Republican opposition.
It’s not that they are evil.
Mitch McConnell and John Boehner do not believe that it is practical to fight Obama while he is in the White House. It’s hard, difficult, troubling, and impractical. It’s not practical to pass a bill that the President could veto, so they don’t do it. It’s not practical to oppose Welfare or Federal Spending or bureaucratic overreach if most of the American People don’t even know that these things are a problem. It’s impractical. Why fight losing battles? Why take unpopular positions? It’s impractical.
This is why the Republican Party you gave control over the United States Congress is working more closely with President Obama than they are with the citizens that put them into power in the first place. Obama has the real power, not you. Therefore, listening to you is impractical. Working with Obama is practical.
You must understand the way these people think in order to understand why we are where we are. McConnell and Boehner aren’t really evil, even though they enable evil. They accept the world, the system, the rules, the common lexicon, and the common understanding as intrinsically valuable because they are common, because they are accepted. Principles and philosophies are impractical, to them.
So, when it comes right down to it, if Judges, Presidents, and Congressmen all agree that something is what they say it is, then to them, it is just crazy for anyone to challenge it. The majority accept it – deal with it. That is the America you live in. That is just how shallow and thin our thinkers and politicians have become.
Frankly, on some level, I think this is why Trump is so popular. He’s the most impractical man in the game. He just says whatever the majority of people wish was the case, and is riding a wave of unprecedented support. But that’s a topic for another day. This article is already too long and if most people refuse to read an article this long, then you can rest assured that such an article was impractical in the first place!
UPDATE: Shaun Kenney weighs in with the same thinking. Virginia Politics is a whore up for sale. Jeb Bush is willing to purchase us. Bush To Fundraise For Virginia Senate Republicans. Jeb Bush accepts the way our politics works and is working it. Jeb Bush is practical.
Yesterday, the elitist sycophant George Will, the national voice of the Bush and Ford families, vomited an article aimed at appealing to libertarians and limited-government conservatives. The premise around which his entire, intoxicated, argument swirled was that, “To will an end is to will the means for the end, so the Republican clamors are also for the requisite expansion of government’s size and coercive powers” (Times Herald).
What he is trying to say, foggy and bizarre as it sounds, is that in order for Republicans to demand that United States law is enforced, is to demand government expand. Why, pray-tell, does our desire to enforce the laws already voted upon by our legislatures and signed by United States Presidents, expand government? Because our government has been refusing to enforce those laws in the first place.
So, would George Will argue that our continuation of the War on Drugs is a de facto measure of “big government”? I’m quite sure I’ve never heard him make that point, but we can be certain that if we ended the war on drugs, government would get smaller wouldn’t it? And what about the police? If we just got rid of the police, we’d have smaller government. Oh, George Will must be for that too, since to will an end is to will the means for the end.
George Will is accusing conservatives of being for big government because they want laws already in existence to be enforced. Is George Will an anarchist who doesn’t believe in the rule of law? Is George Will a democratic-populist who believes in arbitrary rule of law?
No. George Will is a corporatist, big-government Republican who represents Wall Street, K Street, and the Chamber of Commerce. He is the face and tongue of the Country Club Republicans.
I hate to tell you this, Mr. Will, but your Republican Party of wealthy, self-important, nihilists who believe the American Worker exists to provide the Corporate Class with cheap labor is dead. It’s dead. The Republican voters despise you. The Democrat voters despise you. Libertarians despise you. Your reign of Crony Capitalism is quickly approaching its’ end. Prepare to encounter a new Republican Party that won’t doll out corporate welfare. No more double standards for the corporate elites who purchase your newspaper companies, who buy your politicians, and who write our laws. That’s all coming to an end.
George Will’s Republican Party is DEAD. Long Live The Republican Party!